tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-115234229390911001.post2592561815018828893..comments2023-09-16T05:17:48.427-07:00Comments on Anime's Musings: Writing Wednesday: The Handy Book of Villainous DialogueAnihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10708453250023278530noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-115234229390911001.post-35345566049847853082021-07-15T01:21:50.756-07:002021-07-15T01:21:50.756-07:00jordan 13
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LOL I HAD to ...I'm glad you all liked the post! LOL I HAD to blurb about the subject because Lori's comment seriously made me think "twirly-mustache with maniacal laughter" kind of villain, which William is SO completely not. *laughs* <br /><br />OH! And welcome new followers! *waves* :DAnihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10708453250023278530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-115234229390911001.post-90257577771424197272011-09-26T08:49:39.045-07:002011-09-26T08:49:39.045-07:00Hi, Anime! I'm here from Lori's blog. Writ...Hi, Anime! I'm here from Lori's blog. Writing believable dialogue can be so tricky. Good thing we're allowed as many revisions as we need, LoL! You make great points here. Thanks for the breakdown!Laura S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13934230198562773803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-115234229390911001.post-52365278431384658142011-09-26T07:53:40.036-07:002011-09-26T07:53:40.036-07:00Great post! Excellent breakdown. It's very tru...Great post! Excellent breakdown. It's very true. We can't allow any of our characters, good or bad, to be one-dimensional.<br /><br />And I'm here from Lori's blog, and am now your newest follower, so:<br /><br />Nice to meet you!Matthew MacNishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03264738483763244969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-115234229390911001.post-91478511511621126972011-09-17T07:15:10.488-07:002011-09-17T07:15:10.488-07:00In my opinion as a reader this is the most importa...In my opinion as a reader this is the most important aspect of anything more than a short story (6k words). I want to see the characters as human (regardless their race). I want ot be able to identify with the bad guys ad well as the good guys.<br /><br />Growing up I love Batman more than Superman because Batman wasn't perfect. In fact I hated Superman - he was too good, too heroic.<br /><br />You spelled this out perfectly!Safirebladenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-115234229390911001.post-66275641999216589972011-09-15T17:13:55.271-07:002011-09-15T17:13:55.271-07:00Hahaha! Awesome post! And so true. As I am figurin...Hahaha! Awesome post! And so true. As I am figuring out my villain for my next WIP, I so needed to hear this. I love me a well-fleshed out villain.Peggy Eddlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10241451940725996650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-115234229390911001.post-41741316641861281182011-09-15T12:24:37.888-07:002011-09-15T12:24:37.888-07:00LOL, I love that bit of dialogue. So deliciously o...LOL, I love that bit of dialogue. So deliciously over the top, but I guess that's not what you were going for? Haha. Great points here, and yes, I definitely fall into the same trap.<br /><br />Also, how do you have such an endless supply of pretty? There are so many!Krispyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09492607213249874138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-115234229390911001.post-46022712054987403222011-09-15T09:41:07.135-07:002011-09-15T09:41:07.135-07:00I love this. It's very true that no 'evil&...I love this. It's very true that no 'evil' character or person really believes they're evil. As writers, we have to show that they think they're in the right. Not easy to do!Juliana L. Brandthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15903360100714298208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-115234229390911001.post-28861082465315448532011-09-14T16:04:26.249-07:002011-09-14T16:04:26.249-07:00I had a related, interesting problem. My protagoni...I had a related, interesting problem. My protagonist is an assassin (not very heroic, tough gig to get reader sympathy) and so is the antagonist (OK, easier to hate) BUT the protagonist's original motivation is saving the antagonist's life (because she doesn't know he is a bad guy) so I had to find a way to make them both likeable, but him actually evil. Maybe I should just shut up now and stop complaining since I at least didn't have the problems you've mentioned in your post ;-) Quit while I'm ahead, so to speak...Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-115234229390911001.post-82828341527309284222011-09-14T13:55:49.297-07:002011-09-14T13:55:49.297-07:00I think the easiest way to make your villain more ...I think the easiest way to make your villain more rounded is to show WHY they want to, say take over the world.<br /><br />The bad guy who just wants to take over the world sucks. But if all of a sudden you show that he wants to take over the world BECAUSE he feels that it's the only way to make sure all kittens find a good home, then you have a round bad guy.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16518183823230864763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-115234229390911001.post-43393072587169850122011-09-14T12:37:23.902-07:002011-09-14T12:37:23.902-07:00Very cool post! And yes, this is extremely import...Very cool post! And yes, this is extremely important an issue to take care of. And if I can add my own spin here...<br /><br />Recently, I've been reading writing tip posts and articles about making your protagonist "likeable." I looked at a WIP of mine that I'd completed (busy editing and such), and noticed the beginning pegged the main protagonist as a bit too angsty and perhaps not that likeable, at least before he starts showing more positive qualities. Then I realized...later, he ends up being a fairly major antagonist. Does he need to be that likeable? Same with other characters around him. They're supposed to be likeable, aren't that much, but have some redeeming qualities. It was then...that I kinda stopped worrying.<br /><br />As for dialogue, you're absolutely right. It shouldn't be typical hero-speak, villain-speak. When I was in high school, I'd write a story and the bad guy would actually "laugh hysterically" after making some reaching threat. I'm pretty sure a few of my old stories actually feature "ha ha ha HAHAHAHAAAA!" in their dialogue somewhere. Ashamed? Oh yeah, a little, ;-) Granted, my bad guys usually come through on their threats, which is more than most villains can say (as they're usually thwarted before the big terrible event comes to pass), but that doesn't mean they're made any cooler by cackling during a boiler plate moment.<br /><br />I mean, those kinds of dialogue lines are like laugh tracks in a sitcom. Place hysterical cackling here. Place threat here. Retort from hero here.<br /><br />Stuff like that needs to have some originality to it. Then again, occasional characters speaking that way make some bit of sense. Just need to put it all through a filter and see what really works and is unique and special, :-DMarc Mattalianohttp://www.twitter.com/cardinalmarcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-115234229390911001.post-81933090695312337562011-09-14T12:19:40.864-07:002011-09-14T12:19:40.864-07:00hahaha, I love this post. *is biased* I tell you l...hahaha, I love this post. *is biased* I tell you like it is b/c I know you can handle it, and I know you can do better! I can't wait to see the next draft *_*Lori M. Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04858438789496971734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-115234229390911001.post-91815652288259207782011-09-14T12:15:49.943-07:002011-09-14T12:15:49.943-07:00Great post. I don't give away the villain unti...Great post. I don't give away the villain until the last 1/3...and I do try to maintain a natural person about them.<br />In reality, nasty people don't act like the crazed villain we see in some movies, no, they are very callous and calculating.<br /><br />So, that's my approach.<br /><br />Make them shrewd, and keep them crude.<br /><br />Great post.Imran Siddiq @flickimphttp://www.imranwrites.comnoreply@blogger.com